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- This article was in last month's issue of Urb magazine (#26) - is this
- a late April Fool's joke or something real? All I can say is I haven't heard
- it mentioned here or among anyone I know....
-
- I checked PIHKAL, and the only thing I could find was GAMMA, which
- is related to MDA. This drug below sounds a little like MDA I guess. I
- make no apologies as to the grammar and content of the article, I just want
- to know what this stuff is. A lot of his references sound pretty bogus...
-
-
-
- LIQUID X
-
- What is GHB?
-
- In the past few months GHB (Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate) has become a
- staple drug in the underground scene. All but replacing Ecstasy (MDMA),
- it's now on the forefront of what seems like a new drug revolution.
- It has even been dubbed "liquid ecstasy." It's highly concentrated
- street form is available as a liquid in small plastic bottles, about the size
- and shape of a hotel shampoo bottle. One dosage is usually a capful. There
- are approximately 9 hits per bottle, and at $10 a bottle, not only is this
- drug potent, it's very cheap as well.
- GHB's relation to MDMA is uncanny, but some say its effects are more
- like a hybrid of acid and ecstasy. Despite its relatedness though, it's
- chemical composition is a far cry from that of X. Ecstasy is in the chemical
- family of amphetamines, GHB is not. The analogy between the two probably stems
- from the physical effects the drug has on the user. Both enhance the sense
- of touch greatly, causing the user the desire to touch and feel.
- The sedative effects of the drug are also worth mentioning, as it can
- be very strong. Quite often, with a sufficient dose, the user can nod off
- completely and go to sleep or find themselves in a state of unmovable [sic]
- helplessness. To some, this is unpleasant because the brain is functioning
- quite rapidly but they don't have much control over what they can do
- physically. Several ephedrine or a rail of amphetamines have been used to
- counteract this effect with much success, causing a very happy and ecstatic
- high. This combination of GHB and speed are for many the only way they will
- take the drug.
- The history of GHB is very interesting. Developed almost a decade ago,
- it's [sic] initial purpose was an alternative anaesthetic to be used for
- surgery and medical operations. Due to the unpredicatable qualities of the
- drug and its obvious side effects, it was soon discarded by the medical
- community at large. Later, other doctors realized that it was a very strong
- growth hormone stimulate and was then promoted for muscle growth, weight loss
- and dieting. This caught on very big in the body building community and
- before long every health food store had a good supply of it. During the late
- '80s, it's [sic] overwhelming popularity among body builders incited increased
- medical testing to further study the effects of the drug. During these tests,
- they found that it was a very powerful neurotransmitter, increasing the
- dopamine level in the central nervous system. This caused an upset, and in
- 1991 the FDA had it classified as _Narcotics_1_, restricting its use to
- licensed researchers only and made it a misdemeanor to possess or sell it.
- The negative effects of GHB are documented, although I have little
- knowlege of any of these things happening. _Epileptic_Grand_Mal_Seizures_
- sometimes occur under high dosages of the drug. Coma has also been known
- to occur. The addictive qualities are unknown, but I have yet to meet any
- "GHB Junkies." A few weeks ago at a club in L.A., a girl died while on GHB
- and several other drugs. Because of the mix of drugs, it's hard to attribute
- it to any one thing. GHB may have played a part in her death.
- Another thing to consider with this drug is it's [sic] unpredictability
- with certain individuals. A half hit to one person may seem like 5 or 6 hits
- to another. Because of this, great caution and care should be taken while
- experimenting with this drug. Don't overdo it!
- The fact that GHB was made illegal is not surprising. But it serves as
- further evidence that consciousness-expanding practices are not tolerated and
- [are] seen as a direct threat to the establishment. Yet the establishment will
- not look deeper to find the benefits or revelance such drugs can have. The ban
- on drugs like GHB exhibits the lack of control we have over our own bodies and
- minds. _Remember,_drug_use_is_a_personal_choice_. You choose. Food for
- thought.
-
- --- Cohry O.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- In a previous article (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) has written:
- > This article was in last month's issue of Urb magazine (#26) - is this
- >a late April Fool's joke or something real? All I can say is I haven't heard
- >it mentioned here or among anyone I know....
-
- I just poked Medline for the following info. Apparently the name
- is exactly correct and it DOES have abuse potential. As far as
- it being an MDMA substitute- I doubt this material has that potential,
- especially with respect to therapeutic applications.
-
-
- Joseph A Tucker
- poet@uclink.berkeley.edu
- *************************************************************************
-
- MED-> f kw gamma hydroxy butyrate
-
- Search request: F KW GAMMA HYDROXY BUTYRATE
- Search result: 5 citations in the Medline database
-
- Type D to display; D LOC <campus> to see locations; HELP for more detail.
-
- MED-> d short ab
- Search request: F KW GAMMA HYDROXY BUTYRATE
- Search result: 5 citations in the Medline database
-
- Type HELP for other display options.
-
- 1. Lane RB.
- Gamma hydroxy butyrate (GHB) [letter; comment].
- Jama, 1991 Jun 12, 265(22):2959.
- (UI: 91237970)
- Pub type: Comment; Letter.
-
- 2. Gamma hydroxy butyrate poisoning.
- Medical Letter on Drugs and Therapeutics, 1991 Jan 25, 33(836):8.
- (UI: 91094712)
-
- 3. From the Centers for Disease Control. Multistate outbreak of poisonings
- associated with illicit use of gamma hydroxy butyrate [see comments].
- Jama, 1991 Jan 23-30, 265(4):447-8.
- (UI: 91087349)
-
- 4. Multistate outbreak of poisonings associated with illicit use of gamma
- hydroxy butyrate.
- Mmwr. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, 1990 Nov 30, 39(47):861-3.
- (UI: 91042306)
-
- 5. Fisher RS.
- Animal models of the epilepsies.
- Brain Research. Brain Research Reviews, 1989 Jul-Sep, 14(3):245-78.
- (UI: 90029159)
- Pub type: Journal Article; Review; Review, Academic.
-
- Abstract: The study of mechanisms of the epilepsies requires employment of
- animal models. Choice of a model system depends upon several factors,
- including the question to be studied, the type of epilepsy to be modelled,
- familiarity and convenience. Over 50 models are reviewed. Major categories
- of models are those for simple partial seizures: topical convulsants, acute
- electrical stimulation, cortically implanted metals, cryogenic injury; for
- complex partial seizures: kainic acid, tetanus toxin, injections into area
- tempesta, kindling, rodent hippocampal slice, isolated cell preparations,
- human neurosurgical tissue; for generalized tonic-clonic seizures:
- genetically seizure-prone strains of mouse, rat, gerbil, fruitfly and
- baboon, maximal electroshock seizures, systemic chemical convulsants,
- metabolic derangements; and for generalized absence seizures: thalamic
- stimulation, bilateral cortical foci, systemic penicillin,
- gamma-hydroxy-butyrate, intraventricular opiates, genetic rat models. The
- lithium-pilocarpine, homocysteine and rapid repetitive stimulation models
- are most useful in studies of status epilepticus. Key findings learned from
- each of the models, the model's strengths and weaknesses are detailed.
- Interpretation of findings from each of these models can be difficult. Do
- results pertain to the epilepsies or to the particular model under study?
- How important are species differences? Which clinical seizure type is
- really being modelled? In a model are behavior or EEG findings only similar
- superficially to epilepsy, or are the mechanisms comparable? The wealth of
- preparations available to model the epilepsies underscores the need for
- unifying themes, and for better understanding of basic mechanisms of the
- epilepsies.
-
- There are no more records to display. Type PS to see previous screen.
- MED->
- MED-> fuck off
- Thanks for using the MELVYL Online Catalog.
- Type LOGOFF and press RETURN to terminate your TELNET session.
- Press RETURN for the MELVYL catalog.
- -> logoff
- ELAPSED TIME = 0:00:49
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- Connection closed by foreign host.
- % exit
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-
- From: dk104@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Herb Greene)
- Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
- Subject: G H B
- Date: 28 May 1993 18:29:21 GMT
- Message-ID: <1u5lm1$548@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
-
- Posted anonymously for my friend Frank. I will forward all replies.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
- Sorry for being anonymous but I wish to be too frank. I have been
- doing some self experimentation with GHB that I would like to report.
- GHB is gamma-hydroxy-butyrate (I think I spelled it right.) It is a
- waxy and very hygroscopic solid. The literature shows results in
- experiments using it as treatment for several things but the one that
- caught my eye was its use with alcoholics. I am an alcoholic with a
- perpetual fight to keep control. I do not abstain. I have a desire or
- need to alter my conciousness in the evenings mostly that I don't wish
- to speculate about. For the purpose of this discussion, for whatever
- reason, that is a given.
-
- The research results relate to its use in alcoholics as a treatment for
- the effects of alcohol poisoning. A detox helper as it were. It seems
- to aleviate many of the symptoms such as trembling and sweating. I
- tried it out of curiousity and found the psychoactive effect to be
- extremely pleasant. For me it satisfies virtually every reason that I
- drink alcohol. The subjective experience is similar in a few regards.
- Dizziness and disruption of motor control are equivalent to or worse
- than alcohol for the equivalent buzz. That is about the only down
- side. An astonishing thing for me though is that one is much less
- likely to be foolish enough to attempt to drive or operate machinery
- than one would with an equivalent motor disruption from alcohol. It
- lacks the agressive quality that seems to make one feel capable with
- alcohol.
-
- This lack of agressive content is a very distinguishing difference
- between it and alcohol in general. I tend to get nasty or fight easily
- when on alcohol as do many and I think my own observation is likely to
- be a general effect. One tends to get silly. One can become as
- intoxicated as one wishes but I find I tend to modulate it much better
- than alcohol which has a runaway effect with me.
-
- It definitely acts as a disinhibitor similarly to alcohol. Talking is
- facilitated but one retains a coherence that makes it a good deal more
- meaningful than talk similarly facilitated with alcohol. I am also a
- very good listner when high on GHB. It has an empathogenic quality.
- Not nearly as profound as MDMA for example but in the same vein. I
- feel it actually does facilitate communication that is more normal than
- what alcohol provides. I am fairly buzzed at the moment and I will let
- you judge my coherence.
-
- I, as many alcoholics, turn to aclcohol particularly heavily when in
- emotional pain due to loss, rejection and the like. I have found
- though that it does not help a whit as much as we treat ourselves with
- it for that pain. In fact alcohol causes depression and a deeper slide
- into self pity and sorrow. GHB on the other hand does relieve such
- pain to a remarkable degree. To a degree that I have found lasting. I
- am saying that it may well be therapeutic for people in such a state.
- I have two personal experiences with this effect.
-
- Physiologically, and speaking only subjectively, it is much kinder than
- alcohol. There does not appear to be any toxicity. No shaking, no
- sweating, no weak knees or any of the symptoms we alcoholics have come
- to know and love. And most miraculously, no hangover. On the contrary
- I and others that I know who have experimented with it all agree that
- one awakes feeling more rested than normal and in a far better mood the
- morning after a GHB evening than an evening without. I know of no
- toxicity studies at the dosages I take however and wish one of y'all
- would take that on.
-
- The dosage I take recreationally is about a half teaspoon. I haven't
- weighed it. It comes on pretty fast, under a half an hour, and I will
- usually take another half teaspoon within an hour and no more then for
- several. It is long lasting, four to six hours of motor impairment.
- It also makes one pee for some reason in the middle of the night which
- I rarely do normally. One takes it mixed in a glass of warm to hot
- water. It takes a few minutes to disolve and is sort of fun to watch
- since it seriously messes with the index of refraction of water as it
- disolves.
-
- It is fairly soporific and highly relaxing with a time dilating effect
- similar to mushrooms but less profound. It is not at all psychedelic
- or entactogenic. It is easy to go to sleep at any time after the
- effects come on. It is sexually arousing in a very relaxed sort of way
- but I find it difficult to climax. I can enjoy sex however for
- prolonged periods. A friend of mine has an occasional incidence of
- falling asleep during sex however. It doesn't bother him but it does
- not thrill his wife. :-) I would definitely clasify it as a mild
- aphrodesiac especially with its disinhibiting effect. I have not
- "tried it out" on the unwary, however, to see if it would entice the
- reluctant. I suspect, however, that it would and might even be useful
- for sexual dysfunction brought on by stress or by anxiety about the act
- itself in many of the myriad ways that can be caused.
-
- To me its most profound effect is how it has changed my relationship to
- alcohol. I struggle nightly with the desire to drink. I lose all too
- frequently. I have controlled it for several years with antabuse when
- I get a hangover two days in a row. If I have GHB available I have
- *no* desire for alcohol. I would much rather use it for whatever it is
- I use alcohol for. I have been using it regularly this round for about
- two weeks and in that time have used alcohol to excess twice. Each
- time I stopped short of going where I usually do with distinct feelings
- of dysphoria. Like, why on earth did I do that and how long do I have
- to wait for the effects of the alcohol to wear off? This is a new
- experience for me with regard to alcohol. I am out of it as of tonight
- with no chance for resupply for a while and I am interested to see if
- this effect lasts.
-
- This is my third or fourth round with it, this being the longest. I
- have not experienced any sort of withdrawal symptoms when my supply is
- removed. There is no excess craving or nervousness. It is much like
- being cut off from marijuana. You miss it but so what. For me,
- however, the effects are positive enough that I probably would use it
- regularly if regularly available. I have used it in several small
- groups without it being seriously noticed and the next time it is
- available I wish to try it out in a bar or club setting. It should
- *not* be mixed with alcohol. They each enhance the other and one feels
- very inebriated very fast. It mixes well with pot.
-
- I am now feeling near full effects of about a level teasoon. It is
- sufficient. A friend uses much larger dosages. He had an experience
- combining a fiarly large dose of GHB, probably three or four times my
- dosage, and an amphetamine like stimulant. He lost all motor control,
- couldn't even hold a glass. He scared the hell out of his wife who
- thought he was lost to the world but internally he was having a
- thouroughly delightful time bouncing between the stimulated state and
- the soporific state.
-
- I have decided that the next time I am able to obtain a signifignat
- quantity I am going to give it to a very close woman friend that is
- also struggling and losing with alcohol. I have told her all about it
- so I am not talking dosing any one. I am not very comfortable with the
- ethics of doing this since so damned little research has been done on
- long term use but I see her life slipping away and I really think this
- will help. She knows it is experimental and I have summarized the
- research I have done and made the synopses of the papers available for
- her to read herself. I would like feedback on this. Please keep your
- flamethrowers on standby for a bit though and consider the alternatives
- first. This person is not a candidate for any treatment program or
- help group. Just out of the question for many reasons.
-
- As far as treatment for alcoholism it first must be shown that it is
- safe and then one must deal with the thorny issue of whether or not it
- is ok to substitute one mind altering substance for another as
- therapy. I know that the established alcohol treatment infrastructure
- will not like that idea much at all.
-
- Well, that's about it. I wish someone of you would do some kind of
- controled research on this stuff. There seem to me to be many areas
- that could be explored.
-
- BTW The last half or so of this post was written while in a fairly
- delightful state of mild alteration from GHB and it still has a bit
- to come on yet.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
- From: brians@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Brian Sassone)
- Subject: Re: G H B
- Message-ID: <1993Jun18.220537.5595@unislc.slc.unisys.com>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 22:05:37 GMT
-
- In article <24.296.2252.0NB291CA@pcohio.com> rick.myers@pcohio.com (Rick Myers) writes:
-
- >A friend of mine in Florida is doing a newspaper article on the
- >rave scene, and he called me to ask if I'd ever heard of GHB...
- >I hadn't... It's supposedly a big deal in LA, Vegas and NYC...
- >All I know is it comes as a liquid, it's supposedly a hallucenogen,
- >and there are allegedly no 'after effects'... Anyone tried this??
-
- A friend of mine (in SF) accidently ingested a high dose (2-3 hits?) of
- this that was in someone's beer. She said it was *very* intense. It only
- lasted a few hours and as she came down, she started crying uncontrollably.
- (However, she *had* just broken up with her boyfriend, so was already
- emotionally disraught.) She likened the effects similar to MDMA as far as
- empathy goes. She also said she lost partial motor-control as she kept
- dropping things. She didn't have any significant lingering effects after
- only 5-6 hours.
-
- She was concerned the following week that it may have had some more subtle
- lasting effects. She noticed seeing herself in the mirror as 'different';
- like she had never seen herself that way before. However, she had also just
- quit a long caffeine addiction (with high octane coffee) so this may also
- have been a contributing factor. It's been a couple of weeks since then,
- and she has ad no furhter evidence of any lasting effects.
-
- I've looked through various archives and have found no mention of this drug.
- We would still like to find out exactly what it is and any other information
- about it.
-
-
- -----------------------===<<O>>===------------------------------------------
- -bS "A happy face,
- brians@ios.convergent.com a funkin' bass,
- A lowly raver without a glowstick. for a loving race."
- ------------------------------------------===<<O>>===-----------------------
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: brians@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Brian Sassone)
- Message-Id: <9311050703.AA28884@unislc.slc.unisys.com>
- Subject: GHB References [long]
- To: sfraves@techno.Stanford.EDU (Bay Area Ravers)
- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:03:25 -0700 (MST)
-
- Just so everybody knows some of the facts about this stuff, here is a list
- of references w/ abstracts culled from a medline search awhile back. Sorry
- for the long post, but I think it's important if your entertaining ideas of
- possible experimentation.
-
- I also have a fairly long post of a person who has done some experimentation
- with GHB to offset alcohol cravings. If anybody is interested, let me
- know.
-
- 1
- AN MJJA-338363. 91034.
- OC 91034.
- TI Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate Poisoning.
- SO The Medical Letter on Drugs and Therapeutics. 1991 Jan 25. 33(836).
- p 8.
- PU The Medical Letter, Inc.
- Copyright 1991 by The Medical Letter, Inc.
- PD 910125.
- PT Article (ART).
- IS 0025-732X.
- TX 1 OF 5.
- Gamma hydroxy butyrate (GHB) sold in health food stores has
- recently caused outbreaks of gastrointestinal illness,
- central-nervous-system (CNS) depression, and seizures (Morbid Mortal
- Weekly Rep, 39:861, Nov 30, 1990).
- THE DRUG - GHB is an endogenous substance produced by the
- metabolism of the neurotransmitter gamma-aminobutyric acid. The
- metabolite is itself neuroactive, increasing dopamine levels in the
- brain and acting on the endogenous opioid system (M Mamelak, Neurosci
- Biobehav Rev, 13:187, 1989).
- 3 OF 5.
- SOURCES - GHB has been used experimentally in the USA for
- treatment of narcolepsy because it can induce a normal pattern of
- rapid-eye-movement (REM) and non-REM sleep. GHB is sold in health
- food stoes in the USA, usually as the sodium salt in tablets or as a
- powder, with instructions to take 1 tablet or 1/2 tablet to three
- teaspoons of the powder dissolved in water at bedtime. The amount of
- GHB contained in these preparations is not known. Names for the drug
- have included Sodium Oxybate, Sodium Oxybutyrate, Gamma
- Hydroxybutyrate Sodium, Gamm-OH, 4-Hydroxy Butyrate, Gamma Hydrate,
- and Somatomax PM. It is promoted (illegally) for sleep, weight
- control, and for euphoric and anabolic effects. GHB has been sold
- particularly to bodybuilders with the claim that stimulates growth
- hormone release.
- 4 OF 5.
- CLINICAL EFFECTS - An oral dose of 10 mg/kg can cause amnesia
- and hypotonia; 20 to 30 mg/kg of GHB can produce somnolence within 15
- minutes. Taking more than 50 mg/kg can result in abrupt
- unconsciousness and coma. Patients who have taken 1/2 to 3 teaspoons
- have had symptoms varying from nausea, vomiting, dizziness,
- confusion, and drowsiness to depressed respiration and seizure-like
- activity. Some patients have developed bradycardia and hypotension.
- No deaths have been reported. Signs and symptoms subsided
- spontaneously within eight hours in most patients, although some
- complained of dizziness for as long as two weeks. GHB apparently
- acts synergistically with alcohol to produce CNS and respiratory
- depression. Naloxone (Narcan; and others) has not been effective as
- an antidote.
- 5 OF 5.
- CONCLUSION - Gamma hydroxy butyrate (GHB) sold in health food
- stores as an aid to sleep and bodybuilding has caused severe illness,
- including seizures and coma. No specific treatment is available, but
- all patients so far have recovered spontaneously.
-
- *LINK CCML SCREEN 1 OF 11*
-
- 1
- AN MJBB-394706. 91074.
- OC 91074.
- TI Epidemiologic Notes and Reports: Multistate Outbreak of Poisonings
- Associated with Illicit Use of Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate.
- SO Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR). 1990 Nov 30. 39(47). pp
- 861-863.
- PU Printed and distributed by the Massachusetts Medical Society;
- Information provided by the Centers for Disease Control.
- PD 901130.
- PT Article (ART).
- IS 0149-2195.
- TX 1 OF 12.
- On August 7, 1990, the San Francisco Bay Area Regional Poison
- Control Center notified the regional office of the Food and Drug
- Administration (FDA) and the California Department of Health Services
- of acute poisonings attributed to ingestion of gamma hydroxy butyrate
- (GHB), which recently has been illicitly marketed nationwide.
- Manifestations included gastrointestinal symptoms, central nervous
- system (CNS) and respiratory depression, and uncontrolled movements.
- Subsequent surveillance, based on contacts among poison-control
- centers, led to the recognition that similar poisonings had been
- independently identified in several states. This report summarizes
- findings from the preliminary investigation of this problem.
- 2 OF 12.
- From June 4 through November 28, 1990, at least 57 cases of
- illness attributed to GHB exposure have been reported from California
- (25 cases, 17 from the San Francisco area); Georgia (15, all from the
- greater Atlanta area); Florida (seven, six from the greater Tampa
- area); South Carolina (three); Minnesota (two); Arizona (two); and
- Ohio, Texas, and Virginia (one each). Patients have presented with
- histories of ingesting 1/2 -3 teaspoons of GHB dissolved in water;
- ingestion is followed within 15-60 minutes by onset of one or more of
- the following: vomiting, drowsiness, hypnagogic state, hypotonia,
- and/or vertigo. Loss of consciousness, irregular and depressed
- respiration, tremors, or myoclonus may follow. Seizure-like
- activity, bradycardia, hypotension, and/or respiratory arrest have
- also been reported. Spontaneous resolution occurs in 2-96 hours.
- The severity and duration of symptoms appear to depend on the dose of
- GHB and/or the presence of other CNS depressants, most frequently
- ethanol. In 11 of 12 Georgia patients, four of five Florida
- patients, and three of four California patients for whom concurrent
- drug status was known, other psychoactive drugs--including ethanol,
- benzodiazepines, cannabis, and amphetamines--also had been used.
- 3 OF 12.
- Although no deaths have been reported, most patients have
- required emergency room care; at least 11 were hospitalized, and nine
- required ventilator support or other intensive care. Therapeutic
- efforts consisted of nonspecific supportive care.
- 4 OF 12.
- On November 8, FDA issued an advisory warning that GHB use
- outside of FDA-approved physician-supervised protocols was unsafe and
- illicit and should stop *RF 1 *. Persons who have used GHB and have
- symptoms should consult a physician. Ill persons, physicians, and
- emergency room staff are encouraged to report suspected cases of
- GHB-related illness to their regional poison-control centers and
- state health departments. FDA's investigation into the source(s) of
- this illicit distribution is ongoing. Sale of GHB was banned by
- California on November 8 and by Florida on November 9.
- 5 OF 12.
- Reported by: JE Dyer, PharmD, San Francisco Bay Area Regional
- Poison Control Center; R Kreutzer, MD, A Quattrone, PhD, KW Kizer,
- MD, California Dept of Health Svcs. RJ Geller, MD, Georgia Poison
- Control Center; JD Smith, Georgia Dept of Human Resources. SA
- Normann, PharmD, Florida Poison Information Center; AJ Hill, RA
- Calder, MD, State Epidemiologist, Florida Dept of Health and
- Rehabilitative Svcs. T Litovitz, MD, American Association of Poison
- Control Centers. Food and Drug Administration. Div of Environmental
- Hazards and Health Effects, Center for Environmental Health and
- Injury Control, CDC.
- 6 OF 12.
- Editorial Note: In the United States, the only legal use of GHB
- (HOOC-CH sub 2 -CH sub 2 -CH sub 2 OH) has been under specific FDA
- exemptions for investigational research protocols (e.g., treatment of
- narcolepsy). In Europe, GHB has also been used as an anesthetic
- adjunct and experimentally to treat posthypoxic cerebral edema and
- ethanol withdrawal. During controlled clinical use, the same dose of
- GHB sometimes caused different responses in different patients and
- different responses in the same person at different times (M.
- Mamelak, personal communication, 1990).
- GHB has been illegally marketed under a variety of names,
- including Gamma Hydroxybutyric Acid, Sodium Oxybate, Sodium
- Oxybutyrate, Gamma Hydroxybutyrate Sodium, Gamma-OH, 4-Hydroxy
- Butyrate, Gamma Hydrate, and Somatomax PM. It is distributed as the
- sodium salt in powder or tablet form and is commonly dissolved in
- water.
- 8 OF 12.
- GHB has been marketed illicitly to body builders since at least
- May 1990; it also has been promoted illicitly for weight control and
- as a sleep aid. In addition, GHB has been illicitly touted as a
- "replacement" for L-tryptophan, which had been marketed as a food
- supplement but was recalled in November 1989 when the epidemic of
- eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome was recognized *RF 2 *.
- 9 OF 12.
- GHB allegedly produces a "high," which has led to its further
- use as an illicit drug. Although the concurrent use of other drugs
- with similar toxicities may confuse the clinical, toxicologic, and
- epidemiologic presentation of this problem, the reported symptoms of
- GHB toxicity are the same as the known pharmacologic effects of the
- drug. A causal association between use of GHB and these poisonings
- is also supported by the rapid onset of symptoms after ingestion of
- GHB, more severe and prolonged symptoms associated with larger doses
- of GHB, and occurrence of illness in persons who have not used other
- drugs.
- 10 OF 12.
- GHB is produced by the body as a normal metabolite and is not a
- nutritional requirement. In the brain, GHB increases dopamine
- levels, has effects through the endogenous opioid system, and
- probably has effects through other independent receptor-dependent
- mechanisms. GHB is present in many peripheral sites, including the
- kidney, heart, skeletal muscle, and brown fat. GHB is well absorbed
- orally, readily crosses the blood-brain barrier, and is subsequently
- metabolized to carbon dioxide and water without active metabolites
- *RF 3,4 *. Effects include amnesia and hypotonia from doses as low
- as 10 mg/kg, a normal sequence of REM and non-REM sleep from 20-30
- mg/kg doses (1-3 g per dose were used in U. S. narcolepsy studies *RF
- 5 *), and anesthesia from doses of approximately 50 mg/kg. In doses
- greater than 50 mg/kg, GHB decreases cardiac output and subsequently
- produces increasingly severe respiratory depression, seizure-like
- activity, and/or coma *RF 4,5 *. Other effects suggest that, during
- hypoxia and other energy-limiting conditions, GHB may play a role in
- reducing energy-substrate demand and consumption and in preventing
- the production of free radicals *RF 4 *.
- 11 OF 12.
- GHB acts synergistically with ethanol to produce CNS and
- respiratory depression; ethanol also increases the endogenous levels
- of GHB *RF 4 *. GHB may potentiate the effects of narcotic
- analgesics and skeletal muscle relaxants and may be potentiated by
- the actions of benzodiazepines and neuroleptics *RF 5 *. Although
- antagonism may occur with d-amphetamine, naloxone, haloperidol, and
- drugs used for absence seizures *RF 4 *, these experimental
- antagonists have not been assessed as possible treatments for GHB
- overdose. Anecdotally, naloxone has not been effective in treating
- a limited number of GHB-related poisonings.
- 12 OF 12.
- The focus of public education efforts should be that products
- such as GHB that are promoted for physiologic effects act on the body
- as drugs. In this context, advertising terms such as "natural,"
- "organic," or "supplement" do not imply safety or legality.
- RF 1 OF 5.
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- 1
- AN 91237970. 91000.
- AU Lane-R-B.
- TI Gamma hydroxy butyrate (GHB) [letter; comment].
- CM Comment on: JAMA 1991 Jan 23-30;265(4):447-8.
- SO JAMA. 1991 Jun 12. 265(22). P 2959.
- JT JAMA.
- PT COMMENT (COM). LETTER (LET).
- LG English (EN).
- MJ HYDROXYBUTYRATES: poisoning (po).
- MN ADULT. ANESTHESIA. CHILD. CHILD-PRESCHOOL. HUMAN.
- RN 0 -- Hydroxybutyrates.
- SB Abridged Index Medicus Journals (A). Priority Journals (M). Cancer
- Journals (X).
- YR 1991.
- IS 0098-7484. KFR.
- CP UNITED-STATES (Z1.107.567.875).
- IM 9108.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 910627.
- LAST REVISION DATE: 910912.
- CLASS UPDATE: 91.
-
- 2
- The full text of this document is available using the link command LK.
- AN 91094712. 91000.
- TI Gamma hydroxy butyrate poisoning.
- SO Med-Lett-Drugs-Ther. 1991 Jan 25. 33(836). P 8.
- JT MEDICAL LETTER ON DRUGS AND THERAPEUTICS.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART).
- LG English (EN).
- MJ CENTRAL-NERVOUS-SYSTEM-DISEASES: chemically-induced (ci).
- GASTROINTESTINAL-DISEASES: chemically-induced (ci). SEIZURES:
- chemically-induced (ci). SODIUM-OXYBATE: poisoning (po).
- MN HUMAN. QUACKERY.
- RN 502-85-2 -- Sodium-Oxybate.
- SB Abridged Index Medicus Journals (A). Priority Journals (M).
- YR 1991.
- IS 0025-732X. M52.
- CP UNITED-STATES (Z1.107.567.875).
- IM 9104.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 910213.
-
- 3
- AN 91087349. 91000.
- TI From the Centers for Disease Control. Multistate outbreak of
- poisonings associated with illicit use of gamma hydroxy butyrate [see
- comments].
- CM Comment in: JAMA 1991 Jun 12;265(22):2959.
- SO JAMA. 1991 Jan 23-30. 265(4). P 447-8.
- JT JAMA.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART).
- LG English (EN).
- MJ DISEASE-OUTBREAKS. SODIUM-OXYBATE: poisoning (po).
- MN EMERGENCIES. HUMAN. POISONING: epidemiology (ep).
- POPULATION-SURVEILLANCE. UNITED-STATES: epidemiology (ep).
- RN 502-85-2 -- Sodium-Oxybate.
- SB Abridged Index Medicus Journals (A). Priority Journals (M). Cancer
- Journals (X).
- YR 1991.
- IS 0098-7484. KFR.
- CP UNITED-STATES (Z1.107.567.875).
- IM 9104.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 910207.
- LAST REVISION DATE: 910912.
-
- 4
- The full text of this document is available using the link command LK.
- AN 91042306. 91000.
- TI Multistate outbreak of poisonings associated with illicit use of
- gamma hydroxy butyrate.
- SO MMWR-Morb-Mortal-Wkly-Rep. 1990 Nov 30. 39(47). P 861-3.
- JT MMWR. MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY WEEKLY REPORT.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART).
- LG English (EN).
- MJ DISEASE-OUTBREAKS. SODIUM-OXYBATE: poisoning (po).
- MN EMERGENCIES. HUMAN. POISONING: epidemiology (ep).
- POPULATION-SURVEILLANCE. UNITED-STATES: epidemiology (ep).
- RN 502-85-2 -- Sodium-Oxybate.
- SB Priority Journals (M).
- YR 1990.
- IS 0149-2195. NE8.
- CP UNITED-STATES (Z1.107.567.875).
- IM 9102.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 901219.
- CLASS UPDATE: 91.
-
- 5
- AN 90029159. 90000.
- AU Fisher-R-S.
- IN Department of Neurology, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine,
- Baltimore, MD 21205.
- TI Animal models of the epilepsies.
- SO Brain-Res-Brain-Res-Rev. 1989 Jul-Sep. 14(3). P 245-78.
- JT BRAIN RESEARCH. BRAIN RESEARCH REVIEWS.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART). REVIEW (REV). REVIEW-ACADEMIC (RAC).
- LG English (EN).
- AB The study of mechanisms of the epilepsies requires employment of
- animal models. Choice of a model system depends upon several
- factors, including the question to be studied, the type of epilepsy
- to be modelled, familiarity and convenience. Over 50 models are
- reviewed. Major categories of models are those for simple partial
- seizures: topical convulsants, acute electrical stimulation,
- cortically implanted metals, cryogenic injury; for complex partial
- seizures: kainic acid, tetanus toxin, injections into area tempesta,
- kindling, rodent hippocampal slice, isolated cell preparations, human
- neurosurgical tissue; for generalized tonic-clonic seizures:
- genetically seizure-prone strains of mouse, rat, gerbil, fruitfly and
- baboon, maximal electroshock seizures, systemic chemical convulsants,
- metabolic derangements; and for generalized absence seizures:
- thalamic stimulation, bilateral cortical foci, systemic penicillin,
- gamma-hydroxy-butyrate, intraventricular opiates, genetic rat models.
- The lithium-pilocarpine, homocysteine and rapid repetitive
- stimulation models are most useful in studies of status epilepticus.
- Key findings learned from each of the models, the model's strengths
- and weaknesses are detailed. Interpretation of findings from each of
- these models can be difficult. Do results pertain to the epilepsies
- or to the particular model under study? How important are species
- differences? Which clinical seizure type is really being modelled?
- In a model are behavior or EEG findings only similar superficially to
- epilepsy, or are the mechanisms comparable? The wealth of
- preparations available to model the epilepsies underscores the need
- for unifying themes, and for better understanding of basic mechanisms
- of the epilepsies. Author-abstract. 332 Refs.
- MJ CONVULSANTS: pharmacology (pd). DISEASE-MODELS-ANIMAL. EPILEPSY:
- physiopathology (pp). KINDLING-NEUROLOGY.
- MN ANIMAL. EPILEPSY: chemically-induced (ci). SUPPORT-NON-U-S-GOVT.
- SUPPORT-U-S-GOVT-P-H-S.
- RN 0 -- Convulsants.
- SB Priority Journals (M).
- YR 1989.
- IS 0165-0173. BRS.
- CP NETHERLANDS (Z1.542.651).
- IM 9002.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 891220.
- CLASS UPDATE: 92.
- NO RO1NS2512802. PO1NS0722618.
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- AN 81230352. 81000.
- AU Hoang-P-T. Pourriat-J-L. Rathat-C. Cupa-M.
- IN Departement D'Anesthesie-Reanimation, Bobigny-Bondy, Hopital
- Avicenne, Bobigny.
- TI [Status asthmaticus. Mechanical ventilation with association sodium
- gamma hydroxy-butyrate and pancuronium bromide (author's transl)].
- TT L'etat de mal asthmatique. Ventilation assistee a l'aide de
- l'association gamma-hydroxy-butyrate de sodium-bromure de
- pancuronium.
- SO Anesth-Analg (Paris). 1981. 38(1-2). P 43-6.
- JT ANESTHESIE, ANALGESIE, REANIMATION.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART).
- LG French (FR).
- AB The authors have added to the usual therapy (corticoids, antibiotics,
- bronchodilatators) of 13 cases of status asthmaticus the following
- association: sodic gamma hydroxybutyrate and pancuronium bromid so
- they have noted in every case of quick decrease of bronchospasm
- allowing the stopping of the mechanical ventilation.
- Author-abstract.
- MJ ASTHMA: therapy (th). HYDROXYBUTYRATES: therapeutic-use (tu).
- PANCURONIUM: therapeutic-use (tu). RESPIRATION-ARTIFICIAL.
- SODIUM-OXYBATE: therapeutic-use (tu).
- MN ADULT. DRUG-THERAPY-COMBINATION. ENGLISH-ABSTRACT. FEMALE. HUMAN.
- MALE. MIDDLE-AGE.
- RN 0 -- Hydroxybutyrates.
- 15500-66-0 -- Pancuronium.
- 502-85-2 -- Sodium-Oxybate.
- SB Priority Journals (M).
- YR 1981.
- IS 0003-3014. 4RU.
- CP FRANCE (Z1.542.286).
- IM 8110.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 810810.
- CLASS UPDATE: 91.
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- AN 81107525. 81000.
- AU Defossez-M. Le-Bec-G. Sancier-A. Manelfe-C. Espagno-M-T.
- Bouzat-A. Sevely-A.
- TI [Neuro-sedation and cranial C.-T. scan in infants and children
- (author's transl)].
- TT Neuro-sedation et examens tomodensitometriques chez le nourrisson et
- l'enfant.
- SO Anesth-Analg (Paris). 1979. 36(11-12). P 525-9.
- JT ANESTHESIE, ANALGESIE, REANIMATION.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART).
- LG French (FR).
- AB Sixty-four infants and children under 14 years of age had a
- neuro-sedation, for a cranial C.-T. Scan. This entirely painless
- procedure requires complete immobility of the patient. We used two
- sorts of methods: for infants under eight months of age, a
- premedication followed by a feeding-bottle is sufficient. For
- children over eight months of age, intravenous administration of
- gamma-hydroxy-butyrate at 30 to 50 mg/kg induces light but sufficient
- sleep in obtaining a useful scan. Within the group of 24 infants we
- obtained 14 good results, 8 mild ones and 2 failures. Within the 40
- children over eight months of age, 28 procedures were good, 10
- children had to undergo more anesthesia during the examination and
- twice the exploration was impossible. Author-abstract.
- MJ BRAIN: radiography (ra). HYPNOTICS-AND-SEDATIVES:
- administration-and-dosage (ad). TOMOGRAPHY-X-RAY-COMPUTED.
- MN ADOLESCENCE. CHILD. CHILD-PRESCHOOL. ENGLISH-ABSTRACT. HUMAN.
- HYDROXYBUTYRATES: administration-and-dosage (ad). INFANT.
- RN 0 -- Hydroxybutyrates.
- 0 -- Hypnotics-and-Sedatives.
- 502-85-2 -- Sodium-Oxybate.
- SB Priority Journals (M).
- YR 1979.
- IS 0003-3014. 4RU.
- CP FRANCE (Z1.542.286).
- IM 8105.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 810327.
- CLASS UPDATE: 91.
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- AN 75035869. 75000.
- AU Puca-F-M. Genco-S. Masi-G. Federico-F. Di-Lauro-L.
- TI [Vestibulo-oculomotor reflexes in relation to the level of vigilance.
- III. The vestibulo-oculomotor reflexes during central depression
- caused by sodium gamma-hydroxy-butyrate].
- TT I riflessi vestibolo-oculomotori in rapporto al livello di vigi
- lanza. III. I riflessi vestibolo-oculomotori in corso di defres
- sione centrale da gamma-idrossibutirrato di sodio.
- SO Boll-Soc-Ital-Biol-Sper. 1973 Sep 15. 49(17). P 1001-6.
- JT BOLLETTINO - SOCIETA ITALIANA BIOLOGIA SPERIMENTALE.
- PT JOURNAL-ARTICLE (ART).
- LG Italian (IT).
- MJ BRAIN: drug-effects (de). EYE-MOVEMENTS. HYDROXYBUTYRATES:
- pharmacology (pd). REFLEX. VESTIBULAR-NERVE: physiopathology (pp).
- MN ADULT. ATTENTION. HUMAN. MALE. NYSTAGMUS. SLEEP.
- SB Priority Journals (M).
- YR 1973.
- IS 0037-8771. ALS.
- CP ITALY (Z1.542.489).
- IM 7503.
- ND ENTRY DATE: 750122.
- nd age.
- SO Mech-Ageing-Dev. 1989 Mar. 47(3). P 229-39.
- JT MECHANISMS OF AGEING AND DEVELOPMENT.
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- GHB, or gamma-hydroxybutyrate, is a normal component of mammalian
- metabolism. It is found naturally in every cell in the human body and is most
- properly considered a nutrient. In the brain, the highest amounts are found in
- the hypothalamus and basal ganglia [Gallimberti, 1989]. GHB is found in
- greater concentrations in kidney, heart, skeletal muscles, and brown fat
- tissues [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. It is believed to be a neurotransmitter,
- although the jury is still out as to whether it exhibits all of the properties
- required for fulfillment of this function [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. It is
- both a metabolite and precursor of the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA
- (gamma-aminobutyric acid, or gamma-aminobutyrate), another nutrient to which
- it bears a close structural relationship. GHB, however, does not act directly
- on GABA receptor sites [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992].
- GHB was first synthesized about thirty years ago by Dr. H. Laborit, a
- French researcher interested in exploring the effects of GABA in the brain.
- Because little or no GABA crosses the blood-brain barrier, Laborit synthesized
- GHB, which substitutes a hydroxy group for an amino group. This difference
- allows GHB to cross the blood brain barrier where some of it is metabolized
- into GABA [Vickers, 1969].
- As it turned out, Laborit found that GHB exhibited a range of effects
- beyond those expected from GABA. Over the intervening years, numerous
- researchers have extensively studied GHB's effects. It is has come to be used
- in Europe as a general anesthetic, a treatment for insomnia and narcolepsy (a
- daytime sleeping disorder), an aid to childbirth (increasing strength of
- contractions, decreasing pain, and increasing dilation of the cervix), a
- treatment for alcoholism and alcohol withdrawal syndrome, and for many other
- uses.
- During the 1980s, GHB was widely available over-the-counter in
- health-food stores, purchased largely by body-builders for its ability to
- stimulate growth hormone release which aids in fat reduction and muscle
- building. In the last few years it has been gaining popularity as a
- "recreational" drug offering a pleasant, alcohol-like, hangover-free "high"
- with potent prosexual effects.
-
- --- Scientific Reports on GHB ---
-
- For the thirty years prior to 1990, the scientific papers on GHB were
- unanimous in reporting numerous beneficial physiological effects and the
- absence of long-term negative effects. In 1964, Laborit listed "very low
- toxicity" as one of the "principle elements" of the compound's pharmacology.
- In a 1969 report on GHB's anesthetic uses, Vickers referred to GHB as "a
- truly nontoxic hypnotic" and repeatedly emphasized its "lack of toxicity."
- Vickers cited evidence that GHB demonstrates "no toxic effects on the liver
- and kidney." In 1972, Laborit described the body's metabolism of GHB and
- stressed "the absence of any need of detoxification by the organism."
- As recently as 1989, this scientific consensus on GHB's benign nature
- remained unchanged. Gallimberti's study from that year on its uses in
- treating alcohol withdrawal in humans notes that "GHB's action ...seems to be
- without serious side effects." His almost off-hand reference to the "safety
- of GHB" shows how well-established this property of the nutrient had become.
- Then, on November 8th, 1990, the FDA banned the over-the-counter sale
- of GHB in the United States. In 1991, two scientists from the California
- Department of Health Services wrote a report on ten "poisonings" associated
- with GHB. The authors, Chin and Kreutzer, warned of GHB's "tremendous
- potential for abuse." They observed that "all interviewed patients reported a
- pleasurable sensation or a `high.' Several of them...continued taking [GHB]
- because it made them `feel good'." Apparently, the authors construed feeling
- good in and of itself as a potential threat to public health. Despite such
- dire language, the report acknowledged that "there are no documented reports
- of long-term [detrimental] effects. Nor is there any evidence for physiologic
- addiction."
- Of the ten "poisonings" reported, four involved "unknown doses," four
- featured the "coingestion" of other drugs, (usually alcohol), one involved
- unmedicated epilepsy, and another a history of grand mal seizures. Since
- alcohol and other central nervous system (CNS) depressants are not
- recommended with GHB, and because GHB is contraindicated for epileptics, such
- cases are not unexpected. Chin and Kreutzer acknowledge that the "more severe
- reactions...generally occurred when patients took an unmeasured dose, a
- particularly large dose, or several doses within a short period of time."
- Such problems are easily avoided by following the directions for GHB's use.
- Although the specific clinical details of these ten cases are too
- lengthy to go into here, one point needs addressing--the use of the terms
- "coma" and "seizures" in descriptions of these cases. At a sufficiently high
- dose, GHB can cause CLONUS, a rapid, rhythmic contraction and relaxation of
- muscles which would be better described as muscle spasm or uncontrollable
- twitching than a seizure. GHB can also cause intense drowsiness, abrupt
- sedation, and deep sleep which is probably better described as unarrousability
- or deep sedation than coma. Vickers [1969] described it as a "nontoxic coma,"
- which blunts some of the inflammatory connotations of the term coma.
- Regardless of their alarmist tone, the authors confirm that "there
- have not been any reported deaths" and that "if product use is discontinued,
- full recovery with no long-term side effects is universal." They concluded
- that "the prognosis for people who experience GHB poisoning is quite good."
- The degree to which the pleasant state of GHB euphoria may be
- psychologically addicting may not be fully appreciated. Anybody with known
- attraction or addiction to tranquilizers or alcohol should pay special heed
- to this possibility. In the few cases of GHB abuse that we have investigated,
- there were pre-existing use/abuse patterns with alcohol and/or tranquilizers.
- Ironically, it was GHB's lack of toxicity that led to increased frequency of
- use (numerous times per day) that characterized what can only be called
- classic cases of psychological addiction. Without the dehydration and CNS
- irritation of alcohol, or the side effects of tranquilizers, there was no
- incentive to moderate or curtail GHB use. Fortunately, few people seem to
- have such overwhelming attraction to the GHB state. Even Chin and Kreutzer
- minimize GHB's abuse potential by stating, "No investigator [has] reported
- any long-term adverse effects, addictive or dependent qualities associated
- with discontinued usage of the drug."
-
- --- Why Was GHB Banned? ---
-
- It seems likely, then, that at least some of the motives behind the
- 1990 FDA ban of GHB were other than those of public safety. Such a ban
- constitutes the only means of Federal control of a substance neither scheduled
- by the DEA nor approved by the FDA as a drug. In the absence of a genuine
- public-health concern, such control might have been motivated by a desire to
- protect the pharmaceutical industry (with which the FDA is closely
- intertwined) from competition from a safer, more effective and less expensive
- alternative to sleeping pills. Is it a coincidence that the FDA has also
- banned L-tryptophan, another nutrient that functions as a safe and effective
- sleep aid?
-
- --- What Are the Real Concerns? ---
-
- As with most substances, unpleasant and possibly dangerous side
- effects can be associated with excessive doses of GHB. A dose usually only
- about twice the amount required for relaxation or a prosexual effect can, as
- one user put it, "knock you out but fast." In this respect, GHB is probably
- comparable to alcohol: if you drink twice as much as you normally would, you
- probably wouldn't function very well. Despite its general safety and lack of
- toxicity, the safe use of GHB requires information, preparation, caution, and
- good judgment. In other words, follow the usage guidelines!
-
- --- How Does It Feel? ---
-
- Most users find that GHB induces a pleasant state of relaxation and
- tranquility. Frequent effects are placidity, sensuality, mild euphoria, and a
- tendency to verbalize. Anxieties and inhibitions tend to dissolve into a
- feeling of emotional warmth, wellbeing, and pleasant drowsiness.
- The "morning after" effects of GHB lack the unpleasant or debilitating
- characteristics associated with alcohol and other relaxation-oriented drugs.
- In fact, many users report feeling particularly refreshed, even energized, the
- next day.
- The effects of GHB can generally be felt within five to twenty minutes
- after ingestion. They usually last no more than one and a half to three hours,
- although they can be indefinitely prolonged through repeated dosing. The
- effects of GHB are very dose-dependent. SMALL INCREASES IN THE AMOUNT INGESTED
- LEAD TO SIGNIFICANT INTENSIFICATION OF THE EFFECT. Higher levels feature
- greater giddiness, silliness, and interference with mobility and verbal
- coherence, and maybe even dizziness. Even higher doses usually induce sleep.
-
- --- The Actions of GHB in the Body ---
-
- GHB temporarily inhibits the release of dopamine in the brain. This
- may cause increased dopamine storage, and later increased dopamine release
- when the GHB influence wears off [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. This effect could
- account for the middle-of-the-night wakings common with use of higher GHB
- doses, and the general feelings of increased well-being, alertness and arousal
- the next day.
- GHB also stimulates pituitary growth hormone (GH) release. One
- methodologically rigorous Japanese study reported nine-fold and sixteen-fold
- increases in growth hormone 30 and 60 minutes respectively after intravenous
- administration of 2.5 grams of GHB in six healthy men between the ages of
- twenty-five and forty [Takahara, 1977]. GH levels were still seven-fold
- higher at 120 minutes.
- The mechanism by which GHB stimulates growth-hormone release is not
- known. Dopamine activity in the hypothalamus is known to stimulate pituitary
- release of growth hormone, but GHB inhibits dopamine release at the same time
- that it stimulates GH release. This suggests that GHB's GH-releasing effect
- takes place through an entirely different mechanism [Takahara, 1977].
- At the same time GH is being released, prolactin levels also rise.
- Serum prolactin levels increase in a similar time-dependent manner as GH,
- peaking at five-fold above baseline at 60 minutes [Takahara, 1977]. This
- effect, unlike the release of GH, is entirely consistent with GHB's inhibition
- of dopamine. Other compounds which lessen dopamine activity in the brain (such
- as the neuroleptic Thorazine) have been shown to result in prolactin release.
- Although prolactin tends to counteract many of the beneficial effects of GH,
- the sixteen-fold increases in GH probably overwhelm the five-fold increases in
- prolactin.
- GHB induces "remarkable hypotonia" (muscle relaxation) [Vickers,
- 1969]. It is now gaining popularity in France and Italy as an aid to
- childbirth. GHB causes "spectacular action on the dilation of the cervix,"
- decreased anxiety, greater intensity and frequency of uterine contractions,
- increased sensitivity to oxytocic drugs (used to induce contractions),
- preservation of reflexes, a lack of respiratory depression in the fetus, and
- protection against fetal cardiac anoxia (especially in cases where the
- umbilical cord wraps around the fetus' neck) [Vickers, 1969; Laborit, 1964].
- GHB is completely metabolized into carbon dioxide and water, leaving
- absolutely no residue of toxic metabolites [Vickers, 1969; Laborit, 1972].
- Metabolism is so efficient that GHB can no longer be detected in urine four
- to five hours after it is taken by injection [Laborit, 1964].
- GHB activates a metabolic process known as the "pentose pathway" which
- plays an important role in the synthesis of protein within the body [Laborit,
- 1972]. It also causes a "protein sparing" effect [Laborit, 1964] which reduces
- the rate at which the body breaks down its own proteins. These properties,
- along with GHB's effect on growth hormone, underlie its common use as an aid
- to muscle-building and fat loss.
- Anesthetic (large) doses of GHB are accompanied by a small increase in
- blood sugar levels, and a significant decrease in cholesterol. Respiration
- becomes slower and deeper. Blood pressure may rise or fall slightly, or remain
- stable, but a moderate bradycardia (slowing of the heart) is consistent
- [Vickers, 1969; Laborit, 1964]. A slight drop in body temperature also occurs
- [Laborit, 1964].
- GHB also stimulates the release of acetylcholine in the brain
- [Gallimberti, 1989].
-
- --- GHB and Sleep ---
-
- GHB has been called "almost an ideal sleep inducing substance" [SMART
- DRUGS II, p245]. Small doses produce relaxation, tranquility and drowsiness
- which make it extremely easy to fall asleep naturally. Higher doses increase
- the drowsiness effect and decrease the time it takes to fall asleep. A
- sufficiently large dose of GHB will induce sudden sleep within five to ten
- minutes [Laborit, 1964].
- Many other hypnotics interfere with various stages of the sleep cycle
- thus preventing the body from achieving a complete and balanced session of
- rest and recuperation. The most remarkable facet of GHB-induced sleep is its
- physiological resemblance to normal sleep. For instance, GHB sleep is
- characterized by increased levels of carbon dioxide in the arteries, as in
- normal sleep [Vickers, 1969]. During normal and GHB sleep, the CNS continues
- to be responsive to "noxious stimuli" (pain and other irritations), a factor
- which sets limits on GHB's uses in anesthesia [Vickers, 1969]. GHB facilitates
- both REM (rapid eye movement) sleep, and "slow-wave" (non-REM) sleep, the
- stage of sleep featuring increased release of growth hormone [Laborit, 1972].
- And unlike the unconsciousness induced by other anesthetics, that triggered by
- GHB does not feature a systemic decrease in oxygen consumption [Laborit,
- 1964].
- The primary disadvantage to GHB's use as a sleep aid is it's
- short-term influence--about three hours. During GHB's influence, sleep is
- deeper and more restful, but after the GHB has worn off, people have a
- tendency to wake up. The higher the dose, the greater is this tendency. Some
- have called this pattern the "dawn effect" and have speculated that it is
- related to the release of stored-up dopamine. Some people minimize this effect
- by taking minimal doses of GHB. Others take advantage of this effect by
- getting a couple of hours of work done in the middle of the night. Still
- others choose to take a second dose of GHB to sleep for another three hours.
- It should be noted that not everyone can be put to sleep by GHB. We
- have spoken to three men who have never achieved sleep even with the doses
- normally used for such purposes. In addition, Takahara [1977] reported that
- one of the six men in the growth hormone study cited above remained conscious
- even though he had received two and a half grams of GHB intravenously, a
- dosage which rendered the rest of the participants unconscious.
-
- --- GHB, Alcohol and Alcoholism ---
-
- GHB shows great promise in the treatment of alcoholism. In Europe,
- one of its primary uses is to relieve withdrawal symptoms, cravings, and
- anxiety among alcoholics.
- In laboratory rats addicted to alcohol, withdrawal symptoms closely
- resemble those exhibited by humans, including tremors, convulsions, and
- hypersensitivity to sound. All of these symptoms were blocked by sufficiently
- high doses of GHB [Fadda, 1989]. Administration of GHB has also been found to
- prevent alcohol consumption among rats that voluntarily ingest alcohol
- [Fadda, 1989; Gallimberti, 1989].
- In a rigorous, double-blind, placebo-controlled study conducted of
- human alcoholics, "nearly all withdrawal symptoms disappeared within two to
- seven hours" after administration of GHB. On a severe-moderate-mild-or-none
- scale, withdrawal symptoms remained below moderate during the entire period.
- The only side effect observed was slight, occasional, and transient dizziness.
- The researchers concluded, "the results clearly indicated that GHB is
- effective for the suppression of withdrawal symptoms in alcoholics"
- [Gallimberti, 1989].
-
- --- Other Uses of GHB ---
-
- GHB has a decades long track record of use as a general anesthetic.
- Administered intravenously, an anesthetic dose of GHB is in the range of 4-5
- grams for a 150-pound person [Vickers, 1969]. Its advantages as an anesthetic
- include low toxicity, relatively few contraindications, slowing of the heart
- rate without loss of blood pressure, the absence of irritation to the veins
- with intravenous administration, muscle relaxation, absence of respiratory
- depression (usually), reduction of body temperature (hypothermia), and various
- protective and anti-shock actions [Laborit, 1964]. However, GHB can almost
- never be used in anesthesia without the additional administration of other
- drugs [Vickers, 1969] because it does not produce complete surgical anesthesia
- except in children [Laborit, 1964]. The autonomic nervous system remains
- active during GHB-induced anesthetic coma, and thus the body continues to
- respond to surgical stimuli through increases in heart rate, blood pressure,
- and cardiac output, as well as through sweating, peripheral vasoconstriction,
- vocalization, and reflex muscle action [Vickers, 1969]. Local anesthetics or
- other drugs which suppress these responses must therefore also be used, like
- the way a dentist or orthodontic surgeon might use Novocaine to kill pain
- along with nitrous oxide to render a patient unconscious.
- It is suspected that part of GHB's protective function involves a
- slowing of the metabolism of brain cells, thus reducing their requirements for
- oxygen and glucose [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992; Artru, 1980]. Another factor in
- GHB's anti-shock capability may be the marked vasodilation induced in the
- liver and kidney, thus increasing blood flow to those vital organs.
- GHB's efficacy for treating anxiety has been positively demonstrated
- in tests involving schizophrenic subjects [Laborit, 1964]. Its sedative
- properties have earned it a role as a psychotherapeutic adjunct [Vickers,
- 1969]. It has also been used to assist the process of "abreaction," or the
- release (usually through verbalization) of repressed emotion [Vickers, 1969].
- Unlike other "anxiolytic" (or anti-anxiety) drugs, GHB's effect is non-toxic.
- Furthermore, GHB's reduction of inhibitions, its tendency to encourage
- verbalization, and the typical lack of fear during the GHB experience would
- seem to provide an ideal context for the verbal exploration of difficult
- emotional territory during therapy.
-
- --- GHB and Sex ---
-
- Scientists and doctors have traditionally been reluctant to ascribe
- aphrodisiac properties to any substance, although this tendency may have
- abated somewhat in recent years. It is a testament, then, to the power the
- GHB's sexual effects that they were clearly acknowledged in the scientific
- literature by 1972. Dr. Laborit wrote:
-
- "A last point should still be mentioned: the [GHB] action on Man
- which could be called 'aphrodisiac.' We cannot present any animal
- experiments on this subject. However, the oral form has now been
- sufficiently used so that, as generally agreed, no doubt can
- subsist as to its existence."
-
- We have identified four main prosexual properties:
- 1) disinhibition,
- 2) heightening of the sense of touch (tactility),
- 3) enhancement of male erectile capacity, and
- 4) increased intensity of orgasm.
-
- Perhaps the foremost prosexual property of GHB is disinhibition. Some
- users suggest that GHB's other sexual benefits are secondary effects, made
- possible (or at least amplified) by this loosening of psychosomatic
- constraint. A number of people have commented that this disinhibition is
- particularly marked among women.
- Women often report that GHB makes their orgasms longer and more
- intense, as well as more difficult or time-consuming to achieve, especially at
- higher doses. As with its other effects, GHB's impact on female orgasm seems
- highly sensitive to small adjustments in dosage.
-
- --- Legal Status and Availability ---
-
- GHB is not approved in the US and has been banned from
- over-the-counter sale by the FDA. GHB has not yet been "scheduled" as a
- "controlled substance" by the DEA, and therefore simple possession is not
- illegal. GHB continues to be sold to legitimate laboratories and scientists
- for research purposes, but selling it specifically for human consumption,
- especially while making claims about its health benefits, is a violation of
- current FDA regulations and policy.
- In some European countries, GHB is an approved drug available by
- prescription. Local doctors, pharmacists and government bureaucrats should be
- able to provide country-by-country specifics.
- GHB is growing in popularity and seems to be widely available in the
- underground "gray market." Since most of the GHB available through such
- channels is of the "bootleg" variety, manufactured by nonprofessional
- "kitchen" chemists, concerns about quality and purity should be kept in mind.
- Caveat emptor (buyer beware)!
-
- --- Safety Issues ---
-
- As has been emphasized, the overall safety of GHB is well-established,
- and no deaths attributable to GHB have been reported over the thirty year
- period that this compound has been in use [Vickers, 1969; Chin and Kreutzer,
- 1992]. In fact, as of 1990, only forty-six adverse reactions had been reported
- in the United States surely constituting only an infinitesimal fraction of
- actual usage, all followed by rapid and complete recovery [Chin and Kreutzer,
- 1992]. Unlike a large proportion of other drugs including alcohol and even
- Tylenol, GHB has no toxic effects on the liver, kidney or other organs
- [Vickers, 1969; Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. One program of sleep therapy using
- six to eight grams daily for a period of eight to ten days produced no side
- effects. Vickers [1969] even reports that doses as high as twenty to thirty
- grams per twenty-four hour period have been used for several days without
- negative consequences (don't do this at home kids!). In the Canadian studies
- of narcolepsy mentioned earlier, the nightly use of two to six teaspoons (one
- teaspoon equaling roughly 2.5 grams) for several years resulted in no reports
- of long-term adverse effects, or problems with issues of addiction or
- dependence. In one of these studies, one patient inadvertently ingested
- fifteen teaspoons without adverse consequence "other than deep sedation and
- headache the next day" [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992]. And in France,
- sub-anesthetic oral doses were used by "a large number of patients for about
- six years" without untoward effect [Laborit, 1972].
-
- --- Side Effects ---
-
- According to Dr. Gallimberti [1989], the action of GHB is "without
- serious side effects." Some research programs have reported no side effects at
- all. Nonetheless, it's clear that some minor side effects can occur. Those
- most commonly experienced are drowsiness, dizziness, nausea, and sometimes
- vomiting. As a sedative-hypnotic, GHB's effects bear some similarity to those
- of alcohol and tranquilizers. GHB not only "may cause drowsiness" like these
- other drugs, IT WILL ALMOST INVARIABLY DO SO. Ataxia, or incoordination, can
- also be a side effect of GHB. DO NOT DRIVE A VEHICLE OR OPERATE DANGEROUS
- MACHINERY WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF GHB.
- As mentioned, clonic movements (muscle contractions or "seizures")
- have been observed during the onset of GHB-induced sleep. Headache is
- sometimes reported. A moderate slowing of the heart rate is a consistent
- effect, and small changes in blood pressure can take place. Likewise,
- orthostatic hypotension (a sudden drop in blood pressure caused by standing up
- quickly) has also been reported. Sometimes this is experienced as brief
- dizziness, and rarely people can briefly lose consciousness. At very high
- doses, cardiac and respiratory depression can occur.
- Sufficiently large doses of GHB can cause sudden sedation and loss of
- consciousness. Do not take such doses except when reclining on a bed or sofa.
- It is also a bad idea to take such doses in the presence of people who don't
- know anything about GHB. You may alarm your family or friends and wake up in
- an emergency room (with a large medical bill).
- More unusual and extreme reactions have included diarrhea, lack of
- bladder control, temporary amnesia, and sleepwalking. Whatever side effects
- may be noted, they are often much more severe when GHB is combined with other
- central nervous system depressants [Chin and Kreutzer, 1992, Gallimberti,
- 1989; Takahara, 1977; Vickers, 1969].
-
- --- Contraindications ---
-
- Although contraindications for GHB have been described as "remarkably
- few" [Vickers, 1969], those who suffer from any of the following conditions
- should not use GHB: severe illness of any kind, epilepsy, eclampsia
- (convulsions), bradycardia (slowed heart-beat) due to conduction problems
- [left-bundle-branch-block is an example of conduction difficulty], Cushing's
- syndrome, severe cardiovascular disease, hyperprolactinemia, and severe
- hypertension [Gallimberti, 1989; Vickers, 1969].
- Severe alcoholism is sometimes mentioned as a contraindication for GHB
- [SMART DRUGS II, p244] even though GHB has been used quite successfully in
- the treatment of withdrawal symptoms. The explanation for this seeming
- contradiction probably lies in the likelihood that severe alcoholics may
- combine GHB with alcohol.
- GHB should not be used with benzodiazepines ("minor tranquilizers"
- such as Valium and Xanax), phenothiazines ("major tranquilizers" like
- Thorazine and Stellazine), various painkillers (barbiturates and opiates),
- alcohol, anticonvulsants (Dilantin and phenobarbital) and even many
- over-the-counter allergy and sleep remedies--without direct medical
- supervision.
-
- --- Dosage ---
-
- Determining the ideal dose is probably the trickiest aspect of working
- with GHB. The amount required for a given level of effect will vary from
- person to person, and the dose-response curve is fairly steep. Overestimating
- the dose can have consequences ranging in seriousness from ruining your plans
- for the evening to waking up in the emergency ward as a result of panic on the
- part of concerned-but-uninformed friends or relatives.
- Once you have found the levels that give you the effects you desire,
- they will remain consistent. Tolerance to GHB does not develop. However,
- recent (not current) alcohol consumption may decrease the effect of a given
- dose of GHB [Fadda, 1989].
- Most people find that a dose in the range of 0.75-1.5 grams is
- suitable for prosexual purposes, and that a quantity in the range of 2.5 grams
- is sufficient to force sleep.
- Some people think that GHB might lower potassium levels and should
- therefore be taken with potassium supplementation. Some research papers have
- identified such an effect, others have not. If you want to play it safe, take
- a potassium supplement equal to 10% of the GHB dose.
-
- --- Notes: ---
-
- Note 1: This article is excerpted and adapted from a 40-page special
- report on GHB written by the authors and available from:
-
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- NEWS, telephone (415) 321-CERI or (415) 323-3864 FAX or e-mail to CERI's
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- The Demonization of GHB* --- by Steven Wm. Fowkes
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- Many Americans first heard of GHB through a widespread rumor that actor
- River Phoenix's death was caused by a GHB overdose. This rumor was started by
- club-goers, exaggerated by reporters, confused by DEA agents, and rejected
- by the subsequent coroner's report. NEWSWEEK called GHB "an obscure and
- dangerous steroid substitute," but perhaps the most egregious purveyors of
- misinformation were DEA field agents who informed reporters that GHB's slang
- name was "Great Bodily Harm," a designer drug with a less-than-benign
- reputation on the streets of Los Angeles. The press took it hook, line and
- sinker, failing even to recognize that the three-letter acronym G-B-H was a
- scrambled version of G-H-B. The DEA's attempt at misinformation was a
- brilliant attempt to scare the American people and support the FDA's
- questionable ban of GHB. Although it worked on the mass media, it boomeranged
- in the clubs. Said one New York nightclub patron, "I'd never heard of GHB
- before. No one in New York had. This month it's the only drug" [Rogers,
- 1993].
-
- Rogers P and Katel P. The New View From On High. NEWSWEEK, 6 December 1993.
-
- * This brief note on GHB was originally published as a sidebar in SMART
- DRUG NEWS, the newsletter of the CERI. Copyright (c) 1994 by CERI.
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- From: ELM <linda>
- Subject: Re:gamma-hydroxybutyrate(GHB)
- Message-ID: <DGtGJ2.Epn@nntpa.cb.att.com>
- Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:49:50 GMT
-
- > bob chapel <bchapel@eideti.com> wrote:
- > READERS.....lately I have been reading about a rather controversial
- > substance that has piqued my curiosity due to the very controversy
- > surrounding it (GHB) Does anyone out there have any experience with this
- > drug?
-
- I used GHB a number of years back when it had lots of popularity among
- bodybuilders. I never found that it did much for my physique, but it works
- great to make me fall asleap. The problem i have with the stuff is that
- I wake up about 2 hours after i fall asleap.
- My normal sleap patterns are funky to begin with: i sleep in 4 hour cycles
- wake, need to eat something small, then I can fall back to sleap.
- I could repeat this over and over sleaping forever if i wanted to.
- I hoped that GHB might cure this, but it made it worse.
-
- Other things i learned about GHB...
-
- GHB makes you naucious if you try and stay awake after taking it. The nausia
- may be because it kind of makes you feel drugged up and the whole
- equalibrium
- thing starts to go.
-
- Never take GHB if youve smoked pot earlier in the evening. (Locks me up into
- the stranges state, half between awake and asleap haveing horrible emotional
- nightmares. This experience was also noted by others who used the stuff)
-
- Never take it unless you are ready to crawl into bed. (I woke up on the living
- room floor one night, after having taken GHB and finishing up my nightly
- chores
- I recall getting a little naucious,a really woozy drugged up feeling, and the
- next thing i know I'm waking up on the floor.. i must have passed out)
-
- Some people i know say it gives them a hangover type effect, where you just
- can not wake up in the AM... Not good if you have client waiting for you at the
- gym at 6am. I never noticed this effect personally, but i suggest experimenting
- on a nite that you dont have a critical aptmt. the next day.
-
- You have to be a totally brainless fool to take GHB with alchohol in order
- to get high. But I'm sure that ones been covered in previous postings.
- I still cant figure out how one can stay awake to actually enjoy this.
-
- I once had a brainless aquaintence who thought more must be better and took
- 4 scoops
- of the stuff at once. I ended up over their house all nite when his girlfriend
- called me because he was behaving like a psychotic. I spent the nite there
- convincing him that his girlfriend was not his mother, and that noone was
- going to hurt him. This was like wittnessing a bad trip. People without
- good solid common sense should not play with this stuff. Turns out the guys
- a real asshole in a lot of other respects as well.
-
- Hope the experiences are useful
- Linda
-
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